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The Future of AI: Superhuman Intelligence, Autonomous Coding, and the Path to AGI with Misha Laskin of ReflectionAI

October 22, 2025

This episode is a re-air of one of our most popular conversations from this year, featuring insights worth revisiting. Thank you for being part of the Data Stack community. Stay up to date with the latest episodes at datastackshow.com.

This week on The Data Stack Show, Eric and John welcome Misha Laskin, Co-Founder and CEO of ReflectionAI. Misha shares his journey from theoretical physics to AI, detailing his experiences at DeepMind. The discussion covers the development of AI technologies, the concepts of artificial general intelligence (AGI) and superhuman intelligence, and their implications for knowledge work. Misha emphasizes the importance of robust evaluation frameworks and the potential of AI to augment human capabilities. The conversation also touches on autonomous coding, geofencing in AI tasks, the future of human-AI collaboration, and more.

Notes:

Highlights from this week’s conversation include:

  • Misha’s Background and Journey in AI (1:13)
  • Childhood Interest in Physics (4:43)
  • Future of AI and Human Interaction (7:09)
  • AI’s Transformative Nature (10:12)
  • Superhuman Intelligence in AI (12:44)
  • Clarifying AGI and Superhuman Intelligence (15:48)
  • Understanding AGI (18:12)
  • Counterintuitive Intelligence (22:06)
  • Reflection’s Mission (25:00)
  • Focus on Autonomous Coding (29:18)
  • Future of Automation (34:00)
  • Geofencing in Coding (38:01)
  • Challenges of Autonomous Coding (40:46)
  • Evaluations in AI Projects (43:27)
  • Example of Evaluation Metrics (46:52)
  • Starting with AI Tools and Final Takeaways (50:35)

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