The PRQL: Why is Building Great AI Features so Hard? Featuring Barry McCardel of Hex

July 8, 2024

In this bonus episode, Eric and John preview their upcoming conversation with Barry McCardel of Hex.


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Eric Dodds 00:02
Welcome to The Data Stack Show prequel. This is a short bonus episode where we preview the upcoming show. You’ll get to meet our guests and hear about the topics we’re going to cover. If they’re interesting to you, you can catch the full length show when it drops on Wednesday. Welcome back to the show. We are here with one of my favorite guests we’ve had on Barry McCardel from Hex it has been a while very since you’ve been on the show. How long ago? Were you on?

Barry McCardel 00:31
I don’t know, a couple years ago, maybe yeah.

Eric Dodds 00:33
That’s crazy. It’s been way too long. Well, for those who didn’t catch the first episode, give us a quick overview of who you are and what hex is.

Barry McCardel 00:43
Yeah. Well, thanks for having me back on. Hex is a collaborative platform for data science and analytics. We built it largely just, it’s an incredibly selfish company. Really, it’s just we built the product we always wish we had. I’ve been a builder and user of data tools. My whole career. And longest stint was at Palantir, where I met my co founders and a bunch of our team and got to sort of build building lots of different data solutions for a lot of different data problems. And, you know, hex is built to be this product, we kind of call it this multimodal product that is able to bring together teams and workflows and sort of unite them in one place around being able to work with data in a much more flexible, fast and integrated way than the tools that we had sort of struggled with before we go deeper into that, but that’s the high level. Alright,

John Wessel 01:34
so one of the topics I’m excited about talking about is AI, and bi together. So let’s make sure we get to that topic. What other topics do you want to cover?

Barry McCardel 01:44
We talked about a ton of things. I think the is a very interesting time in the data stack. As we’re recording this, the Snowflake and Databricks conferences were just over the last few weeks. So it’s very interesting just being there and sort of good chance to check in and where data is going. I think the AI topics super interesting and rich. Tons we can cover. Yeah,

John Wessel 02:04
yeah. Awesome. Well, let’s do it. Yeah, sounds good. All

Eric Dodds 02:08
right. That’s a wrap for the prequel. The full length episode will drop Wednesday morning. Subscribe now so you don’t miss it.